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Anonymous Writer

Wednesday 22 January 2003 2:31:46 pm

Certification?

Why is TRICONEX the only company that puts their TUV certificates online?


Anonymous Writer

Thursday 05 June 2003 9:13:00 pm

Re: Certification?

Mostly so they could run a sleezy ad campaign suggesting that their competitors have something to hide.

However, there is more to the story. It has to do with the various TUV organizations operating in Germany and the fierce competition between the TUV's. TUV Rheinland (in Colgne), which is the TUV that Honeywell uses, launched a website www.tuv-fs.com and provided their clients with the option to make their certification documents available online. TUV Product Service (in Munich) the other TUV organization that certifies products for Siemens, HIMA, ABB, etc. did not offer this service to their clients. I believe TUV Product Service has just recently been given access to post information on this site.

You'll notice that Rockwell's reports for ControlLogix have just been published. Guess which TUV they use? Honestly, if I were Rockwell I wouldn't have published that report. It's about 2 inches thick full of restrictions on the use of the product - which is only approved for SIL 2. These guys do have something to hide but I don't think they even know enough about safety to know that they should be hiding this information.

Fact is, if you want or need a manufacturers TUV report, then ask them. Any reputable manufacturer will provide it.


Friday 06 June 2003 11:33:55 am

Re: Certification?

Dear Anonymous,
I can give you the answers you need, but I am not willing to do this as long as
you stay anonymous.
Sorry for that.
Wolfgang Velten-Philipp
TÜV Rheinland
Automation, Software and Information Technology


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Mostly so they could run a sleezy ad campaign suggesting that their competitors have something to hide.

However, there is more to the story. It has to do with the various TUV organizations operating in Germany and the fierce competition between the TUV's. TUV Rheinland (in Colgne), which is the TUV that Honeywell uses, launched a website www.tuv-fs.com and provided their clients with the option to make their certification documents available online. TUV Product Service (in Munich) the other TUV organization that certifies products for Siemens, HIMA, ABB, etc. did not offer this service to their clients. I believe TUV Product Service has just recently been given access to post information on this site.

You'll notice that Rockwell's reports for ControlLogix have just been published. Guess which TUV they use? Honestly, if I were Rockwell I wouldn't have published that report. It's about 2 inches thick full of restrictions on the use of the product - which is only approved for SIL 2. These guys do have something to hide but I don't think they even know enough about safety to know that they should be hiding this information.

Fact is, if you want or need a manufacturers TUV report, then ask them. Any reputable manufacturer will provide it.


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Jonas Krueger

Thursday 19 June 2003 12:58:48 pm

Re: Certification?

Dear Wolfgang, I am not the poster but I am interested in the answer anyway. Please post it. Thanks


Black Cat

Wednesday 26 November 2003 7:46:21 pm

Re: Certification?

Wolfgang:

Why the others manufacturers don´t put theirs TUV certificates and restrictions on line in www.tuv-fs.com?

Please post it. Thanks


Anonymous Writer

Thursday 15 July 2004 5:23:06 pm

Re: Certification?

What is Selected SIL "A" ? Cannot find references other than SIL 1 thru 4.

Thanks


Michel Houtermans

Monday 28 March 2005 11:52:06 am

Re: Certification?

SIL A does not exist. I think you are confused with the machinery category rating.


håkan landsberg

Monday 17 December 2007 10:49:05 am

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